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01-28-2011, 05:39 PM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
I have been traveling the last few weeks and there doesn't appear to be much obvious progress. However, I have refitted the frames, using my gauge to make them more accurate and everything is much better than the first attempt. I will now be looking for the worst fitting frame and then making the fit better. Then I will look at the next worst fit and so on until they look as perfect as I can expect them. I think I will leave the bow and stern pieces off until after I glue the frames.
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01-28-2011, 09:07 PM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
Greg
You certainly get points for being methodical. Still, you may want to leave time for a bit of fairing the ribs after they are glued in place. In fact, I generally try to get my ribs reasonably well worked out, then glue them and finish most of the fairing in place. I find I can make quick progress with a long file once everything is set in place and also that it helps to test the work with a long flexible strip of wood to "see how she flows" from time to time as I work. Keep up the good work!
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02-05-2011, 05:48 PM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
OK, I have run into my first critical situation. I have fit all of the frames and have begun to cut the rabbet. The first side went reasonably well. The second side was sloppier and maybe a bit too deep. At the stern, even though there appears to be enough thickness, the grain runs perfectly through the keel piece from one side to the other and the piece is splitting right along the deep rabbet cut. The split is about
2 1/2 inches out of 22 inches overall. Can I just glue the piece after I finish the rabbet? Or should I cut a whole new keel? I have a piece of birch I can use, but it is thicker than the basswood that came with the kit and I would have to refit all 30 frames. When I plank the ship, will that add enough strength to keep the keel from splitting further? was thinking of making a very thin wash of Elmers Carpenters glue and just painting that along the inside of the cut. But I wonder if that would make it more difficult for the garboard to adhere to the keel.
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02-08-2011, 10:03 AM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
I believe I have this issue resolved and have posted pictures to help explain. After my initial panic subsided, I continued to cut the rabbet and sand it to a smoother finish. The rabbet is acceptable. With most of the splinters, dust and chisel marks gone, I had a better view of the split. Pics 18 and 19 show the length of the split in relation to the length of the keel stock. (Aft of the pencil) While the inopportune placement of the grain may have contributed to the split, I think the cause was a heavy handed modeler. You can see that the split almost matches the deadwood perfectly. I cut the first side, removing up to 1/16" of the stock. Pics 20, 21. Then I turned it over to cut the second side. If I was working in a larger scale, I might have realized that the deadwood area was unsupported. I should have shimmed that area before putting pressure on the second side. My pressure with the knife probably split the wood and the grain was merely the weakest point. My first thought, later verified by Jim, was to pin the deadwood to the keel. (See my other thread). But I do not trust myself to drill a pilot hole that accurately. But the stern post is not glued yet. When that happens, it will bridge the split and offer some additional support. Since my rabbets are a bit deep anyway, I have cut some brown paper and will glue them into the rabbet to form a splice the length of the split, with some additional length to keep the split from going further. Pics 22, 23 show the rough cut of the paper splice. In pic 23, you can also see what happens when you press down on an unsupported piece. I will shim the unsupported side when I install the splices. I will post another picture when the paper is trimmed and glued into place.
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02-09-2011, 09:45 AM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
The splices are installed on both sides. Pics are posted to show the splice on one side. I feel pretty confident about this repair. Next step, mark the frames to cut out the stanchions.
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02-17-2011, 06:01 PM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
Well I seem to have taken a step backwards. I was ready to cut the stanchions, but the manual told me to check the frames for the proper thickness above the plank sheer. I didn't expect to have to go back to shaping the frames. I have posted 3 new photos showing the frame before thinning, after thinning and the guide I used to make my marks. As shown in the "before" photo, I made my marks and drew the shape by hand. I did all 30 frames on both sides. I then set up my rotary tool, with a sanding drum attached, in a drill press. That allowed the tool to be held steady while I used both hands to move the frame. Things went better than I expected and very quickly. However, the rearmost 5 frames caused a bit of a problem, so I left them oversize and asked for help by posting a different, more specific thread. (Thanks to all the members who gave me advise with this last problem.) I will work that out when I get back home. THEN, I will cut the stanchions.
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02-25-2011, 04:04 PM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
Well I had some issues measuring the height of the stanchions, but I think I have it worked out. I cut three frames last night, just as a test. I was hoping to mark all thirty frames, then cut them all, but I think marking one frame and cutting it is the way I will proceed. Only twenty-seven more frames to go.
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03-04-2011, 02:43 PM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
I have all 60 stanchions cut, pic 0029. I had a little bit of a problem getting them equal. If I had it to do over again, I would have begged, borrowed or stole a table mounted scroll saw. (OK. OK. I would have begged or borrowed.) The table mounted saw would have given me the ability to hold each frame with two hands and slide it along a fence. My cuts would have been more consistent. As it is, I will be using a sanding block to even out the shape of each stanchion. I used a jig to measure the length of each stanchion, but the cuts at the extreme ends of the ship seem a little deep. Pic 0030. I finally got tired of worrying about it and relied on blind faith. After the frames are glued onto the keel, I will have a better idea of how this is going to work out.
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03-11-2011, 06:51 PM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
Another step nearly finished. (Pics 31-32-33) I have all 30 frames glued to the keel and looking reasonably square. I was concerned about my ability to get them square to the keel, plumb and level all at the same time. My small square just didn't want to fit in a way that I trusted. So I used a square tool, slipped it against the keel, then pushed it into the corner of the keel and frame. Presto, two measurements at once. (Pic 34) Then I just had to use my height gauge to be sure that the port side was level with the starboard. I will be using the carved bow and stern pieces that come with the kit. The stern piece is pretty close to done. But I am having a bit of trouble with the bow piece. It just doesn't seem to fit right. After that, the keelson, bilge stringers and plank shears. I don't expect much problem with them. But I will post in "scuttlebutt" about the mast steps. I have some questions about them.
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03-28-2011, 04:56 PM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
My father-in-law always used to say "Being employed sure gets in the way of having fun!" Well, I am suffering from that adage now. However, I do have the stern piece fitted, a hole cut for the rudder post and the stern post glued into place. I am not quite sure that the stern most frames are correctly cut at the planksheer line. I have clamped in a piece of wood for the planksheer and will make some adjustments to the frames. I think it will be easier to cut those frames with the sternpiece unmounted, that is why I haven't glued it in place. It appears that the planksheers should be fine at the bow. No pics this time. Most of this work is taking place between my ears rather than on the model itself. I will post more pics when the longitudinals are in place.
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