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View Poll Results: What is a model shipwright?
More of an Artisan? 8 5.56%
More of a Shipwright? 2 1.39%
More of a Craftsman? 18 12.50%
A little bit, or mixture of all three 116 80.56%
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Old 04-11-2006, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: What is a model shipwright?

When you build a model ship, your building it with your hands, another words, it's hand crafted, which would make you a Craftsman. You also do the researching and redesigning to build it the way it should be built, which would make you a Model Shipwright. While doing all this, you are painting, staining, weathering, etc.... all to create the picture that best appeals to you, something that when finished, can never be copied to complete exactness. Therefore, you are creating a picture in someones mind of what that ship represents. Not a piece of furniture, but a representation of the past. Hence, an Artist. So, I say a little of all three.

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Old 04-14-2006, 03:36 AM
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I feel that the scratch builder is an artist as well as a craftsman. An craftsman because all the components of the model have to be individually made to produce the end product. Only the finished model could be described as a work of art in the eye of the beholder.

 
 
 
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Default Re: What is a model shipwright?

Definitley all three, artisan, caftsman and artist....
Woodworking skills are a definite advantage, direction of grain, how to cut end grain, how the wood behaves, etc.

The ability to visualise and the ability to think in advance and carefully consider the consequences of ones actions.... (Before acting!!)

Even a kit is "Scratchbuilt" to a certain extent, even if providing the wood for planking, some dowelling and some fittings, that must be carefully dealt with to provide the required result, I'd say reasonably close to a scratchbuild....
If the modeller has to cut, shape and carfully fit, rather than just cut and fit laser or die cut parts, it is more of a scratchbuild in my books anyway....

A work of art on completion? Definitley!!

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Default Re: What is a model shipwright?

Nice question.....my 2c worth.....

An artist creates something that hasn't been created before, in a design sense. Since we (I use the "royal" we) are reproducing something that has already been created, we are not really being artistic as such (the aforementioned diorama scenerio accepted.....to a degree) .

But, we ship-modellers have technical skills that can 're-create' the artistry of the naval architect that designed the original, and in many ways enhance the original artistic vision by realising something that might be 'technically feasible', beyond the original designer's capacity. In that vein I'd put 'us' in the category of an artisan. That is, somebody skilled in the technical aspects of woodworking, complemented with individual skills that can in fact interpret and enhance the original design.

An 'artisan' moniker automatically infers the 'craftsmanship' that denotes technical competance, but an 'artisan' adds value to that. By definition, the artisan is a combination of an 'art'ist and techni'cian'.

The result of what we produce can, of course, be regarded as 'art', appreciated by those that lack the technical understanding and skill to do what we do.....so in that regard, yes, we are 'artists' at the popular level.

As a (past) shipwright by trade (but a complete novice when it comes to this 'ere modeling game) it feels good to espouse my take take on it

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Old 07-17-2006, 11:30 AM
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Not to mention The Model shipwright magazine, which has been regarded as the world’s leading ship modelling publication since its launch in 1972.. : )

 
 
 
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Old 09-02-2006, 09:42 AM
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Since the question is about a name, not a quality analysis, I'd say that a Model ShipWright would be most like a "real" ShipWright. Is a ShipWright a craftsman? Of course. Is a ShipWright a type of artist? Of course. So if it's quality that's being asked for, then that would be a different question. But an artist might well create something that is beautiful to look at, but would NOT be functional as a ship. A craftsman can certainly do a tremendous job of workmanship, but it also may well not be functional as a ship. Thus my definition.

 
 
 
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Default Re: What is a model shipwright?

i agree with your definitions totally

 
 
 
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Default Re: What is a model shipwright?

To me, ship modeling is my art form. It's a craft of course since you fabricate it with materials but so is oil painting or sculpting. Is it a "hobby" ? Are oil paintimg or sculpting "hobbies"? Are they toys? Hardly ! But the sellers have to categorize them somehow so they group them with "hobbies" for marketing. Those who see my models remark "Wow ! That seems like a lot of work !" To me it's not "work" but hours of pleasure which sadly come to an end when a model is finished requiring thinking about the next ship. Working on my ship is an adventure. I feel I am aboard that ship as ship's carpenter , captain, owner. I'm in charge and I decide how it will be built.
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Default Re: What is a model shipwright?

As a senior judge, I think that Gerald has it bang to rights as we say,when judging a model of any type,ancient or modern, ALL aspects of that model are taken into consideration

I must also point out that not every model uses WOOD in its construction any more than the real thing.

 
 
 
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Default Re: What is a model shipwright?

I think anybody who can build a plank-on-frame ship off of a set of plans is a shipwright. That could be 1/48 scale or 1/1. I'm sure there are more than a few people on this forum who can look at a set of drawings...and, just taking it one step at a time...can build a ship from scratch, on their table top.

However, that does not make them a ship-builder or naval architect. Although they could be.

I'm reminded of the movie, Flight Of The Phoenix, in which a model airplane designer actually becomes the aeronautical engineer that gets their wreck off the ground and into the air.

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