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Old 10-02-2009, 05:20 PM
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I have two criticisms of this kit (Model Shipways' Bluenose).
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Second, the transom. According to the instructions you apparently glue wooden blocks to each side of the keel at the stern, and shape them either before or after glueing. The blocks would form the transom. But what shape ? Maybe the contours should be such that the hull planks would lie smoothly on them........... There is no indication of the shape of the actual transom. There is a stern view but the transom is raked at an angle of about 45 degrees, so you can't use that. I ended up expanding that stern view vertically using high-school geometry instruments, cutting a transom to that shape out of 1/8 sheet, notching it to fit over the "keel', curving it on my nice new plank bender, and glueing on the "keel". Fitting the stern blocks is then easy. That worked fine, and the hull planking went on easily.
The foregoing may not be clear, and I have no pics but I hope that if you are building the kit you will be able to follow it.


I'm hitting the same issue, and I do not entirely understand your solution. I carved blocks as well as I could from the plans. They fair nicely, but the plans say to notch the quarter frame and transom support into the block, but there's really no wood at the aft end to notch anything into!
Did you make your transom taller, to the top of where the quarter frame would be, and not use quarter frames and transom braces?
I'm attaching pix of what I have done so far, temporarily glued.


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[QUOTE=Bill]I'm hitting the same issue, and I do not entirely understand your solution. I carved blocks as well as I could from the plans. They fair nicely, but the plans say to notch the quarter frame and transom support into the block, but there's really no wood at the aft end to notch anything into!
Did you make your transom taller, to the top of where the quarter frame would be, and not use quarter frames and transom braces?
Maybe this is a better alternative?
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Default Re: Calling All Bluenoser's

I too am tasking upon Bluenose 1. Yes, the plans are somewhat vague, and the book manytimes, contradicts the plans?????
Anyway, like yourself, am plugging along.
Am having some problems with deck planking since part of the plans (BOOK), tell me to plank exactly fore and aft, while another part of the book says to lay the planks following the waterways.
Anyway, keep up the task, and read, read, read, the book and plans.
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I laid the aft deck planks following the waterway. Makes for a more interesting look.

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After a few vacation trips, I'm back to my MS Bluenose II. I was unhappy with the instructions for the main rail. MS supplies laser cut parts for the bow and stern, and says to shape and bend the rest from strip stock.
I was particularly concerned with the stern part. The fake stanchions are not installed, and the stern part's forward extensions only reached as far forward as one stanchion, making it difficult, if not impossible, to maintain a smooth flow forward from that nice curve upward at the transom. And bending and shaping strip stock two ways while maintaining tight scarf joints every 6 inches seemed rather difficult. So I tried an alternative.
First, I made a new stern piece with longer extensions, to reach the 3rd bulwark stanchions.
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Then I cut the main rail sections from sheet stock, (open in a blank window) so I had only 2 pieces to fit from the stern to the bow.
I think it came out OK.
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I've just started planking MS Bluenose II.
It is not clear to me how to plank under the stern overhang. Do all of the planks run all the way out to the transom, or do some miter at the keel?

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Bill - have a look at Rick Austin's gallery pics at :

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Hi Bill,
The planks on the keel do not extend to the transom. Cut them flush with end of keel. The other hull planks do extend to be flush with transom. I have a photo of finished hull in my Bluenose gallery.

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Thanks. That's what I thought.

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Default Bluenose complete!

After about 16 months, my Bluenose it finally done!

The pictures here are a bit small for my taste, so I've posted them on my web site:

http://www.beinert.com/ModelShips/index.html 

Thanks again for all of the help and suggestions offered on this board.

My next build will be a pirate ship for my son-in-law, who is seeing if he has room for either the Corsair or the Black Queen.

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