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Old 08-09-2012, 12:03 PM
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I am building the MS Kate Cory and I'm puzzled by a condition. The ship has a whaleboat sitting on what I believe are called "Featherboards" on the stern. There is no rigging shown for this boat and a question that baffles me is, How would they get that boat in the water? Does any one know the answer to that.
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Hi there.
Seen an answer to this on other forums, but just can't seem to find it now.
Boats were hauled in and launched using tackles rigged to the fore and main lower yardarms until davits were introduced.
Here's a link that shows how it was done. Scroll down the page to see the pics.

Boat lifting gear

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Wow - that's quite a description. I don't think the yardarm approach would work well for the Kate Cory, though, since the aft boat is stored on top of the featherboards that project over the transom rather then be tween the masts. ALso, the Katecory had davits for the side boats, which were the main ready-to-use boats. I don't think it would have been difficult to temporarily lash a tackle to each featherboard to help lower the boat to the water when it was needed. A tackle from the main mast head, the main yard, or the main boom could be used to lift the boat off of the feather board until the load was transfered to the featherboard tackles. This is just speculation, but it could work and would not have any permanently attached rigging. It would be interesting to experiment with your model to see if you can find a practical approach like this. Of course, whaling books might cover the topic, too.

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Hi again.
Sorry, I had assumed a centre type lashed boat - my bad - I hadn't read close enough or seen a photo of the ship .

However, after doing some internet digging, i came across these --- still confusing though

Kate Cory model which shows DAVITS on the stern and claims to be accurate.

Model Shipwrights of New Jersey journal has these pics on page 5 - 6 Journal - pdf showing mounts. zoom in on the picture to see clearly.

Also the Brunel Institute has plans Plan list - pdf - page 156/7 for the Kate Cory. Web contact here

It would seem she changed her rig at one point, so perhaps both are right in the way they are modeled. Perhaps in the skids version a temporary lifting tackle was rigged to the lower boom as pdarrah suggests.

On a side note, she was burned by the confederate raider Alabama. That ship was built no more than a mile from where I live.

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I don't trust the model witht he davits - it has some features that look out of scale (mainly the sails, but the hull shape looks wrong, too) to me, and the Model Shipways plans are by Eric Ronnenberg (Spelling?), who is a recognized expert on the subject. The KC did change rig over the years - she was a schooner first, then a brigantine.

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Hi Paul.
I found the Ronnberg plans are the ones quoted as being the ones to use.
A railway modeling site has her tied up at a wharf, also without davits at the stern.
It looks as though unless a journal can be found that tells how the boat was launched, it will be just an educated guess on the launch method. According to some details I read some of these whalers had cranes on board, but this was never said (that I read) about the KC.

Fred, as has been said many a time, the modeller's the captain, so choose what seems right to you when modelling if no definitive source can be found.

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Guys,
Thanks for your input and let met tell you what I've done so far.
I sent an email to what I thought was Erik Ronnberg's address but ir actually went to a group called,"American Marine Modelers Gallery" and they said that they forwarded My email to Ronnberg but as yet I've gotten no response. They also forwarded me some photos of a KC Model and while the photos didn't answer the question they did show how the boat was secured to the tailfeathers along with the boat accessories. That was a big help since the plans only showed the boat sitting there hoping gravity would do it's work
If I get a response from Ronnberg that answers how the boat was put into the water I'll let you know.
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