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11-15-2008, 08:06 PM
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HMS Victory,My Rigging Sequence for an English First Rate Ship of the Line
Rigging sequence.
Automerged Post: During the many years that I spend building Victory I kept a day to day log of the building sequence, including the standing and running rigging.During the time that I was researching the rigging I found lots of information but most of it was quite confusing as to the actual sequence of how to get it up in the right order.I was quite amazed that in the end the following sequence really worked for me .There was only a couple of minor lines that were not belayed at the foot of the main mast but because of accessibility issues I had to belay them to the shroud cleats instead.Not bad when you consider that I was a beginner at this and secured each line down permanently as I went along,which could have been a disaster. It has been 10 years since I finished Victory and many more since I researched it.There may be much more information out there on this subject today that I am not aware of and if so please advise me if I would be wasting my time in doing this.Cheers! John.
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11-16-2008, 03:10 PM
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Re: HMS Victory,My Rigging Sequence for an English First Rate Ship of the Line
Well I guess things have not changed that much for the beginner.I remember just how confused I was when I first started to learn about rigging a ship.Luckily I kept a log of the rigging sequence that I used for Victory which really seemed to work out well for me.I just turned 68 years old, so before I head for the "happy hunting ground" and someone tosses it in the dumpster, I might as well pass it on to other beginners out there.
Although the following describes Victory it could be used, in whole or in part for any other square rigged man-of-war of the era. I used many references of which "The Anatomy of Nelson's Ship" was the primary source.If you have not already done so I would pick up a copy as this thread will be based upon its contents.It is a great book but it does lack a clear sequence about where to start and how to finish and in what order ,which is of primary concern to any beginning rigger.It has a great index of nautical terms primarily concerned with this era of English warship and wonderful plans,figures and plates of Victory. There are some who disagree about some minor points about what line was belayed where etc....but for the most part this can be considered the bible on Victory. At first I plan just to list the sequence of the rigging itself. I am assuming that your ship model has all the belaying points etc.. already established.Later if all goes well ,I will expand upon each step as to rope sizes,belaying points etc... Well here goes,I hope you enjoy it .....Cheers! John. Automerged Post: 1-lower mast pendants 2-lower mast shrouds(no ratlines) 3-bobstays(at head) 4-bowsprit shrouds 5-mainstay 6-main preventer stay 7-forestay 8-fore preventer stay 9-snaking 10-mizzen stay 11-mizzen preventer stay 12-jeer blocks(fore and main masts) 13-jib boom horses 14-topmast pendants 15-breast backstays 16-standing backstays to be cont......
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11-17-2008, 11:27 AM
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Re: HMS Victory,My Rigging Sequence for an English First Rate Ship of the Line
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11-18-2008, 12:40 PM
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Re: HMS Victory,My Rigging Sequence for an English First Rate Ship of the Line
Rigging Sequence cont............
16-standing backstays a-fore topmast b-main topmast c-mizzen topmast 17-shifting backstays a-fore topmast b-main topmast c-mizzen topmast 18-foretopmast preventer stat 19-foretopmast stay 20-maintopmast stay 21-maintopmast preventer stay 22-mizzen topmast stat 23-topgallant shrouds To be cont........ Automerged Post: 
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11-19-2008, 03:02 AM
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Re: HMS Victory,My Rigging Sequence for an English First Rate Ship of the Line
John: Outstanding. This will be a great resource for all of us here. I, for one, will be looking forward to the information.
I doubt that anyone will be throwing your Victory in the dumpster anytime soon, or in the next century; A very beautiful model, indeed!
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11-20-2008, 12:40 PM
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Re: HMS Victory,My Rigging Sequence for an English First Rate Ship of the Line
John,
What a wonderful model you have created!. I will shortly be starting on a model of Victory - purchased from Gary (Davit) and although I will not be at the rigging stage for quite a while your information and advice will be invaluable. The rigging sequence you have outlined I will follow and will look forward to your expansion into belaying points, etc. Cheers, bbccanada (Brian) |
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11-22-2008, 11:31 AM
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Re: HMS Victory,My Rigging Sequence for an English First Rate Ship of the Line
24-topgallant backstays
25-topgallant shifting backstays 26-jibstay 27-foretopgallant stay 28-main topgallant stay 29-mizzen topgallant stay 30-flying jib boom horses 31-bowsprit horses 32-flying jib stay 33-fore royal backstay 34-main royal backstay 35-mizzen royal backstay 36-main royal stay 37-mizzen royal stay 38-inner martingale to be cont........... Automerged Post: 
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11-22-2008, 01:14 PM
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Re: HMS Victory,My Rigging Sequence for an English First Rate Ship of the Line
John:
You are truly an inspiration. Viewing your work is like watching Tiger Woods play golf (my first passion is golf). What amazing talent you have! Thanks for sharing your beautiful work for us "hackers" to see. "Sawdust Dave" Bullock
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11-25-2008, 12:56 PM
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Re: HMS Victory,My Rigging Sequence for an English First Rate Ship of the Line
The best book on rigging sequence that I am aware of is in a book that I picked up over 30 years ago in a hobby shop called HMS Victory,Classic Ships,Their history and how to model them #1. by Noel C.L. Hackney. ISBN 0 85059 053 1
I picked up this book for $1.95 back then.It is probably long out of print but I know that it was available up until a few years ago when I passed this info on to a another modeler and he managed to find a copy somewhere. It was published in 1970 by Patrick Stephens Ltd, London EC1,England. in association with Airfix Products Ltd,London SW18,England. If anyone finds a supplier ,please let me know.Good luck ! Cheers. John. You may also want to try: http://airfixtributeforum.myfastforum.org/
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