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I searched through the forum and found a few threads on rigging your cannons but what I was looking for wasn't covered in the search and I am not sure how to word my question so here goes.

If the gun carriage is line up in the gun port where on either side of the gun port do you place the eye bolts for the breeching rope and other rigging. In photos I have seen the carriage rigging appears to be located on the waterways in such a manner as to form a certain angle when viewed from above and breeching line is located midway up the bulwark and maybe half the distance closer to the gun port.

Is this something that you do by "eye" or are there some rules of "thumb" that you go by?

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"carriage rigging appears to be located on the waterways in such a manner as to form a certain angle when viewed from above and breeching line is located midway up the bulwark and maybe half the distance closer to the gun port. "

this method is pretty much the normal configuration -- I have seen others , but with the small scale the location above seems best to me .As far as a rule of thumb - I just eye them up .
Breeching rope eye bolts above and inside the gun tackel eye bolts .

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Don: On the Victory, breeching line and train tackle were both on the ceiling (bulkhead). The breeching line is at the same level as the gun's breeching line ring, on the gun's breech end, and train tackle is directly above it ( at the side of and halfway up the gun port) about six inches from the port's edge. This is from a photo of the 12# guns on the upper gun deck.

At your scale, I agree with Gary. Use best estimate, but make them all the same height.

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Thanks guys. I have a question with regards to the breeching line. How do you show the seized line from eye bolt on the bulwarK? I have diagrams that show how to seize the line but do you even bother at a small scale or do you tie knot, what do you recommend.

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Don --

"the breeching rope is 3 times the length of the barrel" - however -- at small scales this is often too much "rope" . I shorten this length to look better on the deck and not clutter up the gun tackle . Trying to attach and rig the breeching tackle after the eyes are installed has always presented problems for me. I usually tie the breeching rope to the eye before attaching it to the bulwark. (I have also just tied a knot at the end of the breeching rope ans passed it through the eyebolt and add a drop of CA) . Than wrap the breeching line to the casabel and than install the gun to the deck . After this I will install the gun tackle . Also , glue the guns to the deck with a small drop of CA under the wheels - the guns are much easier to attach the gun tackle when they do not move around !

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Thanks Gary,
I was pondering how to attach everything after I had all my eye's in place. (LOL) 3x the length of the gun does seem a bit long, I'll do some experimenting and see what fits nicely. Do you have any info on what the size of the breeching rope is or it's diameter? I'm sure it was different for each caliber of gun.

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Don --

the breeching rope was different for each type and size of gun -- most of the kit supplied "rope" is not great in the scale department so I usually try to use "rope" that is thicker than the gun tackle but thinner than the anchor cable - the anchor "rope" being the thickest on board and the gun tackle being about half the thickness . It's really up to you , I just lay out pieces of the stock "rope" and decide what thickness I want to use for each job , disregarding the kit supplied instructions as they are usually wrong in scale .

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Thanks Gary,

I took some samples of my kit supplied thread and went to the craft store over the weekend and found something a little heavier. It's called hemp cord. Then I used the Historic Ship Models book as a guide to layout my breeching line. I laided the line to suit me which I think looks pretty good; and you were right it helps if the cannons are glued to the deck.
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Don:
Not to be critical, but the overh