Review : Prins Willem kit by Corel :: Experiences and /or reviews of model kits :: Ship Modeling Forum
Seasons Greetings from the Ship Modeling Forum
Rudolph says, 'Click here for a mesage from Santa!!!' Holiday Greetings from the Ship Modeling Forum Click here to see all of the presents Santa's going to bring you, New tools and lots and lots of new kits!!!
Click on Rudolph for a special message from Santa!!! OR Click on the Christmas House to see all of the new tools and kits Santa's going to bring you!!!

Get Firefox - Take Back the Web

Go Back   Return to the Forums' Main Page > General Discussion Forums: > Experiences and /or reviews of model kits
Username Password
Problems Logging In - Click Here
Register Users' Guide Projects List Calendar Current Posts Site Map

Share this Thread Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-23-2005, 07:13 AM
Click here to see this member's profile
Nico's Avatar
Click here to view this Members' Photo Gallery
Nico's latest photo
[RG] C++ (Nico) [RG] C++ is offline
Join Date: Jun 2004
Current Project: Le hussard, french corvette
Project Status: Painting various part, finishing the hull
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
Posts: 151
Default Review : Prins Willem kit by Corel

My third ship in the queue, almost finished the hull of my second ship. So a can start with the hull of my third ship.

After building two hull's i want to proceed to the Dutch ships. My heart says a Dutch frigate of the line, but my common sense said a Dutch VOC ship. So i choose the Prins Willem wich is a VOC ship with 40 pieces.

Here a picture of the box
http://shipmodeling.net/photopost/data/534/60P11.JPG (open in a blank window)

This is my first Corel kit after two AL kits. The quality of the Corel kit is very high, as is the price. The kit contiains all brass decorations, they are of high quality, only a mold line is visible on all the cast parts, so this has to be removed.

The wood is better than in the AL kits, much finer grain. A thick one piece 4mm false keel is supplied, along with 4 mm bulk heads.

Here a picture of all the brass
http://shipmodeling.net/photopost/data/534/60P21.JPG (open in a blank window)

The plans are unbelievable accurate, they even show show the complete planking pattern and were to use stealers. Exellent rigging planks and detailed plans for contruction of all the fittings. No sails are supplied, only the flags.

Here a picture of the frame contruction woods
http://shipmodeling.net/photopost/data/534/60P31.JPG (open in a blank window)

There are allot of precut parts already taken out the tech sheets. The kit is supplied with nylon thread.

Needless to say that the kit's instructions are a bit sloppy. So this is not a beginners kit, because the plans are complex and u must now how to read them. Also some knowledge of how to build plank on bulkhead kit's is mandatory. For the rest the kit's contructions is straight forward common for plank on bulkhead kit's.

The price was a whopping E319. But considering the detailed plans and all brass and laser cut parts it's probaly worth its high price.

There is a full size replica of the Prins Willem build in Japan you can see the pictures in my gallery.

Have fun!

------------Members' Signature------------
Here our soldiers wait in the line, to hear the battle cry. Victory is near, my sword will drink blood and i will fight in the dawn of battle.

View this Members' Photo Gallery View this Members' Articles / Shop Notes View this Members' Links  
 
 
  Searching for something? See Search Tips, Main Search Page, Amazon Quick Search
Do a "Quickie" - Google that is!  Or would you rather - "Amazon"
Old 01-23-2005, 07:23 AM
Click here to see this member's profile
cees's Avatar
Click here to view this Members' Photo Gallery
cees's latest photo
ceestoorn (cees) ceestoorn is offline
Join Date: Jan 2005
Current Project: The Zeehaen
Project Status: Making Ropes and blocks
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 15
Default Re: Review : Prins Willem kit by Corel

Hello,
Prins Willem beautiful model one of the biggest VOC retour ships build at the place Middelburg in 1649. The original model from the year 1649 is at the museum in Amsterdam(Rijksmuseum) also the replica build by Herman Ketting is here.
If there are any questions, I have the original drawings and the book of the Prins Willem .

Have lot of fun with the building.

View this Members' Photo Gallery  
 
 
  Searching for something? See Search Tips, Main Search Page, Amazon Quick Search
Do a "Quickie" - Google that is!  Or would you rather - "Amazon"
Old 01-23-2005, 07:32 AM
Click here to see this member's profile
Nico's Avatar
Click here to view this Members' Photo Gallery
Nico's latest photo
[RG] C++ (Nico) [RG] C++ is offline
Join Date: Jun 2004
Current Project: Le hussard, french corvette
Project Status: Painting various part, finishing the hull
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
Posts: 151
Default Re: Review : Prins Willem kit by Corel

Yes its a fine ship, i like the Dutch sterns with all the colours and paintings. Building the "Friesland"(80) is a little to far fetched for me, also the price of over E500 made me think twice. So i choose this ship i'm still young so i would have build this kit anyway.

Do u have the title and the ISBN number of the book, i consider ordering it. I've been twice at the museum in amsterdam, it's worth to go back and watch the specific models u mention.

It's a shame that photography is not allowed inside the museum.

------------Members' Signature------------
Here our soldiers wait in the line, to hear the battle cry. Victory is near, my sword will drink blood and i will fight in the dawn of battle.

View this Members' Photo Gallery View this Members' Articles / Shop Notes View this Members' Links  
 
 
  Searching for something? See Search Tips, Main Search Page, Amazon Quick Search
Do a "Quickie" - Google that is!  Or would you rather - "Amazon"
Old 01-24-2005, 02:56 PM
Click here to see this member's profile
cees's Avatar
Click here to view this Members' Photo Gallery
cees's latest photo
ceestoorn (cees) ceestoorn is offline
Join Date: Jan 2005
Current Project: The Zeehaen
Project Status: Making Ropes and blocks
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 15
Default Re: Review : Prins Willem kit by Corel

Yes ISBN number :90 228 1986 8
But I'm sure the museum does NOT have the book anymore.
Try the antic bookshops for example at the Prins willem kade at Amsterdam.
Whenyou like foto's of the model in the museum try to find the archivaris from the museum or drs H. Dessens he can help you in the collection of the museum are plenty just ask for it it will help.
good luck and success
cees

View this Members' Photo Gallery  
 
 
  Searching for something? See Search Tips, Main Search Page, Amazon Quick Search
Do a "Quickie" - Google that is!  Or would you rather - "Amazon"
Old 01-26-2005, 12:58 PM
Click here to see this member's profile
Nico's Avatar
Click here to view this Members' Photo Gallery
Nico's latest photo
[RG] C++ (Nico) [RG] C++ is offline
Join Date: Jun 2004
Current Project: Le hussard, french corvette
Project Status: Painting various part, finishing the hull
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
Posts: 151
Default Re: Review : Prins Willem kit by Corel

I will visit the museum next summer again, and watch the model there, also to find out what colors to use for this kind of ship. The museum displays a nice naval painting collection, maybe i'll find something in the book shop.

I'd like to compare your original plans with the plans supplied with the kit. Specially for the details on the hull, i'll ask again in some months when the hull has received it's first layer of planking.

------------Members' Signature------------
Here our soldiers wait in the line, to hear the battle cry. Victory is near, my sword will drink blood and i will fight in the dawn of battle.

View this Members' Photo Gallery View this Members' Articles / Shop Notes View this Members' Links  
 
 
  Searching for something? See Search Tips, Main Search Page, Amazon Quick Search
Do a "Quickie" - Google that is!  Or would you rather - "Amazon"
Old 01-28-2005, 10:40 AM
Click here to see this member's profile
Tom's Avatar
Click here to view this Members' Photo Gallery
Tom's latest photo
tomse3 (Tom) tomse3 is offline
Join Date: Dec 2004
Current Project: Armed Virginia Sloop of 1768 by Model Shipways
Project Status: Rigging the guns.
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 99
Default Re: Review : Prins Willem kit by Corel

<off-topic>

I love these guys.

They both are from the Netherlands, and they could easily be exchanging info back and forth in their own language, but they make the effort to come to this forum to write in a second language just so they can share it with the rest of us.

I have a lot of respect for the Dutch. My first trip to Europe was right out of high school (back in the mid-60's) through a summer home-stay program for youth. I was placed with a family in Friesland, and it was a wonderful experience.

It turned out that it was the family of the on-site caretaker of a castle, complete with a moat. It's called Popta Slot, in the small town of Marsum, west of the Friesland capital of Leeuwarden. Our home was built within the preserved shell of the old stables. My "father" was a wonderful gardener, and had the distiction of being the first to get a banana tree to bear fruit in the Netherlands. My "mother" would give tourists guided walking tours of the castle, which was still furnished with the original owners' wonderful chairs, tables, chests, etc. I cherished the lazy afternoons with my "brother", rowing a small boat around the moat or strolling through the grounds that my "father" groomed so lovingly.

I came away from that summer with a strong impression of gentle strength and open-hearted good will to friends, neighbors and strangers.

So thanks, guys, for being here.

</off-topic>

------------Members' Signature------------
When we recall the past, we usually find that it is the simplest things - not the great occasions - that in retrospect give off the greatest glow of happiness. - Bob Hope

View this Members' Photo Gallery View this Members' Articles / Shop Notes View this Members' Links  
 
 
  Searching for something? See Search Tips, Main Search Page, Amazon Quick Search
Do a "Quickie" - Google that is!  Or would you rather - "Amazon"
Old 01-30-2005, 06:33 AM
Click here to see this member's profile
Nico's Avatar
Click here to view this Members' Photo Gallery
Nico's latest photo
[RG] C++ (Nico) [RG] C++ is offline
Join Date: Jun 2004
Current Project: Le hussard, french corvette
Project Status: Painting various part, finishing the hull
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
Posts: 151
Default Re: Review : Prins Willem kit by Corel

Thanks for the complements tomse3, but the creator and maintainer of this great web site is the person who should get the complements. Without him this wouldn't be possible.

I'm happy to hear you had a good time in the Netherlands.

------------Members' Signature------------
Here our soldiers wait in the line, to hear the battle cry. Victory is near, my sword will drink blood and i will fight in the dawn of battle.

View this Members' Photo Gallery View this Members' Articles / Shop Notes View this Members' Links  
 
 
  Searching for something? See Search Tips, Main Search Page, Amazon Quick Search
Do a "Quickie" - Google that is!  Or would you rather - "Amazon"
Old 01-30-2005, 07:57 AM
Click here to see this member's profile
Steve's Avatar