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07-14-2006, 09:11 AM
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Tim, do you have any leads to where I can find some real pictures of the AMERICA? I've been searching but have yet to find anything. I'm going to try to dig up the articles that you mentioned as well. |
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07-16-2006, 10:54 AM
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Re: America
I'm about 60% finished with planking the deck and the instuctions say to "trim off the excess" when finished. What do you guys suggest using to trim off the over hangs?
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07-17-2006, 08:57 AM
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Finished planking the deck and have moved on to the cockpit. Tim, I'm not sure what scale your America is but the Constructo's is 1/56 and the plans call for cutting out a 39 mm circle of the assembled and glued latice work for the cockpit. What did you use to cut out the circle? Any suggestions on cutting this out? See the attached picture......
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07-17-2006, 01:50 PM
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Re: America
You fellows are ahead of me, I am still putting on the first layer of planking on the hull.
To cut out the round grid, I would mark it with a compass or a circle guide, then cut it with a scroll saw (fine blade) outside the mark, and then sand it down to size. I would use a disc sander, but anything would work. There are a ton of ways to cut this out, and this is just the approach I would take. My way is neither the only one nor perhaps the best one. I learned long ago to cut outside the line and then work it down to it.
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07-17-2006, 02:19 PM
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Tommy,
So I take it that you're planking the hull before the deck? Since this is my first ever model I'm following the plans as is and the Constructo (I'll never buy a kit from them again most likely) instructions call to plank the deck before the hull. Thanks for the suggestion on the circle.....I probably would've gone for cutting it out on the line instead of sanding it down to the line which is a much better idea. How would you go about trimming off the excess overhangs from the deck planks? Bryan |
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07-17-2006, 06:42 PM
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Seems odd to me to plank the deck before doing the hull, but I suppose it would work either way. With the hull planked, you know exactly where the bulwarks are going to be and you can set your nibbling strakes accordingly. Nibbling strakes are the long edge pieces of the deck planking that follows the line of the bulwarks. The deck planks are squared off at the ends and fitted into the nibbling strake. This allowed the planks to be caulked without having to get the caulking iron against the bulwarks and kept the planks from getting too thin at the ends. Chances are your kit does not show nibbling strakes, and that is OK, they are a royal pain to do properly and 99% of the people who see the model wouldn't know the difference. When you plank the deck, if you rub a soft pencil against the edge of the planking, it will look like caulking between the planks, which looks more authentic.
My guess is that you have the planks on already and they are running over the edge of deck, and you want to trim them. If they sticking out a ways, you will have to trim them with a small saw or an exacto knife, leaving a little extra and then sanding down to the edge. If they don't overhang very much, I would just sand them down to the edge. You will probably have to lay in a small strip between the bulwarks and the deck edge to cover any mismatches that you get.
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07-18-2006, 12:15 PM
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Thanks for your input Tommy. I do have the deck fully planked and you are right about my instructions, they do not mention anything regarding the nibbing. Sixpac2k mentioned the same thing when starting this thread but since this is my first build I decided I wouldn't attempt the nibbing.
One thing that is beginning to concern me is the painting/staining layout or scheme. There is none in my instructions and all I have to go by is the pictures on the box, which doesn't do a very good job. In some pictures in the instructions it looks as if the deck planks have been stained but then in others it doesn't, it's very confusing. I know I should be painting/staining some of, if not all of the pieces as I go through the project so I'm not left with a lot of hard detail work at the end. Should I just go by what I can see in the pictures on the box? I've searched for better pictures of a completed model and haven't found anything that is better than the box. Any suggestions on this from anyone? Bryan |
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07-19-2006, 06:46 PM
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Bryan:
I did a quick Google image search on "Yacht America" and ended up with several useful photos of models and a few paintings that will help me as I get further into this model. I also bought a book "The Low Black Schooner: Yacht America 1851-1945" which has photos and paintings and a fair amount of history. As far as color goes, based on the Google results, there does not seem to be any standard. Most show a black upper hull with light wood decks, but not all. At one time in her career she was painted white, and several paintings show this. My kit shows a coppered bottom from the waterline to the keel, and black above with light colored stained deck planking. It also shows white trim at the mast feet and tops, white booms and white bowsprit, and white trim around the steering pit, and white on the capstan as well. I intend to paint mine whatever color I would paint her if I owned her. After all, it is my ship and I will be the builder!
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07-20-2006, 08:34 AM
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Sorry guys been real busy getting ready to move into another house. The book tommy mentions is the only real reference I have found. I have copper-ed my hull and painted the upper hull black. I oiled the deck and plan on staining and varnishing all of the deck furniture as this would be correct for the period. I don't know how your plans tell you how to build the walls of the cockpit mine said to glue vertical strips to a piece of paper on both sides so that the wall can be formed. Did you see the band around the hull in the plans? A copper-ed hull would also be period correct. I used a exacto knife handle with a saw blade in it to cut out the cockpit and to trim up the deck planking. I am still trying to correct my bulwarks and make them presentable.
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