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02-25-2012, 03:40 PM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
I've been waiting for someone wiser than me to answer your question. I can give modeling advice but have never built a ship before.
The book planking the built up shipmodel shows that the garboard is tapered just like the rest pf the planks below the wale. However, when planked properly and when viewed from the side, the planks appear to run in a straight line. Also, the bottom edge of the garboard runs against the keel and should not run up the stem. Maybe that helps? Richard
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03-07-2012, 10:39 PM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
I am finally off dead center. I was fortunate enough to make contact with a modeler in the Chicago area who sent me a presentation he uses to teach hull planking. My pic re-sizer doesn't seem to be working right now, so I cannot post the pics yet. But I do have all of the lines drawn on the frames. (Every other frame). I did some trial fits with the temporary battens. It is hard to imagine getting that wood bend from vertical, to almost horizontal and then back to vertical. But I will get it done somehow. Anyway, I am leaving on vacation. (I really want to stay home...but my wife is making me go). But I should be back around March 16 and then maybe I can get the pics posted.
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03-28-2012, 07:09 AM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
Hello everyone. I have to say that I really needed that vacation. Went to St Kitts for seven nights. Didn't turn on the laptop at all, answered only one phone call, replied to a few emails using my phone. I really did need the break. And now,I am moving forward with the Jefferson Davis. Pics 0122 thru 0126 show how I overcame my inability to understand the concepts of planking. I need to thank Bob Filipowski, a Chicago area modeler who sent me his teaching material. 0122 shows a diminishing angle (or something) that he uses. I made mine to correspond with the width of stripwood I was planning on using. The garboard is the widest strake, and the two above that are a bit wider reach the dimension I needed to cover the remainder of the longest frame. I then cut narrow strips from a file folder and laid them along the frame.The top edge abutted the shear strake and I marked the bottom where it met the rabbet line. I then took the strip and laid it on the angle drawing, moving left or right so that the top of the strip and bottom mark matched the angles. Pic 0124. I then copied the remaining marks on to the strip, 0125. Once I had all the marks, I transferred them to the frames, 0126. I did this for every other frame. Time to get to work now. I will try to post more pics tonight or tomorrow night.
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03-28-2012, 11:08 PM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
Here are the pics of my "battens". (0127 and 012
 Bob Filipowski uses chart tape as a temporary batten. The advantage of tape is that it is easy to adjust. It also does not cause holes in the frames from the pins used to secure the batten. The tape might not stick too well during handling, so I use pieces of painters tape to keep them secure. On the forward 4 frames, I did not have marks, so I just "eyeballed" the batten. Some of the material I read said that the strakes above the waterline should be closer to full size, just because it looked better. Using the tape, it was easy to make those strakes a little fuller. I have only put in the battens for the bottom three strakes and the top four strakes. After those areas are planked, I will run another batten to divide the remaining area into two sets of four strakes. That is, if I decide to plank the entire hull. I may leave an open couple of strakes to show that the ship is plank on frame.
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04-02-2012, 05:58 PM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
The next 4 pics show how I marked the garboard for tapering. 0129 shows the garboard loosely fit with registration marks. (Not sure why I used 5 marks, but they didn't cost me much). 0130 shows the garboard clamped in place, so it doesn't move. 0131 shows me measuring the height of the garboard from the marks on the frame. 0132 is how I transferred those marks to the stripwood. Unfortunately, I missed taking a pic of the finished garboard shape.
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04-05-2012, 09:36 AM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
My planking is actually progressing reasonably well. The garboards are mounted as is the shear strake and the next strake below it. Pic 0133 shows the garboard after I twisted it to shape. I am not quite satisfied with the way they look. They seemed to be fine when I first installed them, but when I came back the next morning...oh well. The upper strakes look good. When I finish the first band (4 strakes) I will treenail them to the hull.
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04-12-2012, 08:15 AM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
I just posted some pics of my progress. 0134 shows an overview of the topside planking that is in place and 0135 is a close up amidships. That is all pretty simple. 0136 shows a close up of the stern, where I had a few problems. The strakes go from vertical amidships and twist to form the underside of the stern. I think the end of these strakes should have been covered by the elliptical stern piece, but it doesn't extend far enough. So I fit the strakes a well as I could and will finish the joint with a sanding block. I tested this on one strake and it looks pretty good. I also had a bit of a problem fitting the edges of the strakes where the twist takes place. I got a few hard edges there. When the first band of strakes are complete, I will sand and fill these areas to get a smoother shape. I was hoping to stain the hull, but I am not sure how the filler will appear. If it becomes too obvious, I may have to paint the hull. Sanding square wood to a curved shaped is pretty common for railroaders. I am not too concerned about getting the edges shaped correctly. 0137 is a close up of the bow. The tapering is pretty easy, now that I have all my marks on the frames and the front edges are fitting very tight. Based on the advise of another forum member, I am using three planks per strake. That leaves me a lot of room for correction at the bow and stern. Then I just have to be careful to fit the center piece. And yes, I have the joints laid out correctly.
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04-17-2012, 02:49 PM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
I have finished the first band of strakes. There are 5 strakes from the plank shear downward. Pics 0138 and 0139 show the progress. Pics 0140, 0141 and 0142 show the strakes where they meet the elliptical stern piece. I was concerned here because I trimmed the stern piece a little short. I think the ends of the strake are supposed to be covered by the stern piece, but i have to live with it. I sanded the ends of the strakes to flow into the stern piece and they come out pretty well. I have a little bit of filling to do, but this is minor. I was not real thrilled with my garboards. Since these upper strakes came out so well, I think I will tear out the garboards and remake them. Five steps forward and one step back. At least the net result is moving the model forward. I have some quesitons about tree nailing. I will post a separate thread for that question.
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04-27-2012, 09:30 AM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
I decided to tear out the garboards because they looked too wide in comparison to the upper planking. I tried to build the stealers into the garboard. It's is a nice idea in theory, but I just wasn't happy with it. The new garboards fit well and here is a pic of the stealers.
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05-06-2012, 09:42 AM
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Re: Bluejacket Jefferson Davis, My first attempt at a wooden ship model
Ahhhh. Spring is here. Growing grass, fertilizing, pulling weeds and a boss who thinks that he deserves some work from me. But I am moving along, slowly but surely. I have posted an overall pic that shows about two thirds of the planking done. I am actually further along than that. Here are some issues that I am dealing with. Since this ship has frames instead of bulkheads, the builders guide suggests leaving an open area, allowing the frames to show. He left maybe 9 strakes bare, all along the length of the ship. My first thought was that this looked unfinished. It could also be used as an excuse for not finishing the more difficult stern area. Having thought about this for a long time, I have decided to leave 5 strakes open in the center. All strakes will be finished at the bow and stern. This will prove (to myself at least) that I can plank the entire hull from top to bottom. It will also show off the frames. I have completed all of the full strakes and am working on the partial strakes. I may finish the bow area and then move to the stern. The stern is presenting a problem for me at the point where the planks go from the underside of the stern piece and meet the deadwood. I will post a different thread to illustrate that area and hopefully get some advice.
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