Re: Pride of Baltimore II
 

Another thought Sal,
I did break " M" in half. This was because the " notch " was so tight. I glued it back together and adjusted the notches to fit and then glued " M " on.
Carry on!
Rick

Re: Pride of Baltimore II
 

Hi Rick,

About the spacers....do you think there is anything to be gained by installing them edge-up, like floor joists? Seems to me that might relieve more of the stress overall to the blkhds during the fairing process. What's your opinion?

Sal

Re: Pride of Baltimore II
 

Hey Sal,
I did the framing on my MS CONSTITUTION and used 1/4" x 1/4" spacers. I don't think it makes a difference as long as all the framing becomes rigid so you can fair the bulkheads to shape the hull.
Rick

Re: Pride of Baltimore II
 

Hi Rick,

It's been a while since my last post, but I haven't gotten much farther than I was before. I got too aggressive with the bulkheads and wound up adding strips to 3 of them on both sides. I think I'm in pretty fair shape now though. (I've got my fingers crossed.) Also, I decided to carve fillers for the stem from the counter timber scrap, I've got them glued in and I'm about ready to to glue in the Planksheer. I marked a line on the planksheer to provide the 3/32 overhang (1/32 after the first strake is placed) with a compass. I think I'm going to wait till all the hull & deck planking is installed before adding the frame knees and bulwark stanchions to hopefully avoid damage. Haven't seen any posts from Dave in a while. How's your project coming along?

Sal

Rabbett (NZ Rebate....)
 

Hey there chaps,
How did you cut you rebate for planking?
I have heard lots about this but have not had the oppertunity to do....
I understand that this is done in the Bulkhead part, Plywood, of the "False" Keel, Yes?
A/L use a false keel, Typically Walnut, after the planking is complete and the rebate is cut during bulkhead fairing.
If the rebate, (I'll use NZ Terminoligy here), is to be cut on a plywood keel, carrying the bulkheads, without a False keel, it is a mystery to me what angle this should be cut.... Do you use a router bit? Any help appreciated in the search for quality planking.

Re: Pride of Baltimore II
 

Good morning Harry,
I will try to answer your question.
The " False Keel " on the POB II as well as other Model Shipways kits is made up of several pieces. A main " False Keel " piece of solid wood, not ply wood that AL kits have. This part is laser cut with the "notches" to accept the laser cut bulkhead parts. The bulkheads are laser cut from the same type of wood. They are "notched" to mate to the "false keel" just like AL kits.
These pieces on the POB II are 3/16" wood.
Back to the main "false keel". You have the large false keel part, which is where the rabbet carving takes place. They show on the plans what they call the "bearding" line. This is where you transfer a mark on the center keel piece from the plan. That is where the carving starts tapering the carving to the edge of the false keel, where 1/16" will be carved out to match the plank thinkness. Other laser cut keel parts are glued on to the lower keel, the stem, and stern after the rabbet is carved. On an AL kit, these would probably be walnut pieces you descrbe on your BLUENOSE. I have the AL BLUENOSE kit on the shelf. From it, I see the construction of the false keel and bulkheads are basically the same except for materials used.
Anyway, I marked out the false keel for the rabbet and mostly used my DREMEL tool with a drum sanding attachment to "carve" the rabbet. I did finish this up with files and sanding blocks. I then glued on the stem, stern, and bottom keel parts, using wood dowels to keep them lined up with the the false keel. On an AL kit they would be walnut.
The bulkheads are added next and the bottom of them should meet the "rabbet" that was "carved". More finish carving can be done at this time. I took a piece of the 1/16" planking material to check if the rabbet was cut out properly to the lower false keel pieces. They should be flush. More sanding can be done at this time if you need to. This is not a double planked kit, the lower false keel will be painted along with the planking.
The lines for the "rabbet" as well as the depth are marked on the plans.
I hope this answered your question,
Glad to hear from you,
Rick Yetter

Re: Pride of Baltimore II
 

Thanks for the information Rick.
I had a good look at your photos this morning, very interesting.
I will have to do something very similar when I takle the "Mantua" Cutty Sark, (Some time in the future of course.)
I will be following your project with interest!! (Allways learning....)

Cheers....HOF.

Re: Pride of Baltimore II
 

Hey all, welcome aboard...
I did my rabbet by hand filing (no moto-tool here), somewhat tedious but little worry of getting too "agressive". Another thing that helped me was using a Sharpie and blackening the lower edge of the keel. This made it easier to see there there was any uneven areas as the rabbet was filed down.
Once the rabbet is done, it's quite pretty to "see" exactly how it functions to create a seat for the plank edges once the keel and stem/stern pieces are added.
As for AL kits, I believe the same rabbet shaping can apply, just a matter of creating the "bearding line", which is basically where the bottom of each bulkhead meets the false keel. This is drawn on the MS kit plans, but I've not seen it on my AL kits.
Minimal progress on my POB here but it still sits here beckoning. Just a question of when I decide to "stir up some dust" again. (EDIT: You all have gotten me back to work. The shipwright work stoppage has ended, Spring Break is here, a good opportunity to get moving. I have installed a few more planks in the A belt, trying to get the stern caught up with the bow. The stern planks here are a chore, tapering to very narrow, with a significant twist to lay flat at the counter. Near term goal...finish the A Belt, B looks a bit less tapered (except at the bow, but no real twisting up there).
Thanks for the "kick"!
Dave

Re: Pride of Baltimore II
 

Hi Dave,

I just mentioned your name in my post yesterday and magically you're back! Glad to have you back! After all this is your thread. I don't know where I'd be without you & Rick & your galleries. Welcome back!

Sal

Re: Pride of Baltimore II
 

Hi Dave,
Glad you are there.
My model is in dry dock until I finish moving my workshop into a larger room in my house. I was feeling way to cramped and was too disorganized.
I keep up as best I can with the POB II thread.
Sal has come on board with his model. He has kept me refreshed with his comments and questions. I hope he will post some of his pics soon. He has said that he has gotten good ideas here. I'm also glad he feels free to share his thoughts on this build.
Later,
Rick