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Uther:
Give up?!!? Never. Grandma came through Ellis Island in 1906 from County Cork...I'm to stubborn to give up. Uther, you may be a beginner but if I remember right you have one model under your belt, while this is my first build. I'm not trying for perfection, but since this IS my first build...AND it is Victory...I might as well try to give her the effort she deserves. I figure that this "additional" effort at the very least should give me more skills that I might not otherwise have. Was just saying in the last post that I got to be careful to maintain the integrity of my bulkheads in the areas where they have imitated pincushions. If one or more of those areas fails utterly then I will just have to attach blocks ajacent to the effected area and sand them to fit the needed profile. I took all the pins out except the ones at the ends and put a 20 mm jig between the original battens at my constant girth bulkheads letting them pivot at the ends just to see if I could salvage them. No joy there...darnit. So I'm cooking my new battens now in a water bath at 100C using the skillet pictured earlier. Only ten battens this time instead of twelve as the two original battens just off the keel were locked into position by the future garboard strake. Any new pictures? Mike
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11-10-2008, 09:03 PM
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I think you are right to try for perfection. I have completed the first planking but there are parts I'm not happy with. mostly the stern where the planks taper and bend up, and also where they fan out at the bottom of the stern and stealers are required.
I say I am a beginner because my first attempt was 28 years ago. The Sergal HMS bounty, which was then just a box of wood and some plans in Italien and badly translated english - almost no instructions.. There was a lot less information available then and I since learn't I did almost everything wrong. but I did complete it and it still looked great in spite of my mistakes.. It survived an emigration from Switzerland to England intact, but got destroyed when my cat got tangled in the rigging. It was my attempt to salvage it that got me interested in modelling again, but I'm really a techie and not very skilled with my hands, so I will enjoy doing it, enen though I know I can't really do it as well as I would like. Thats also why I wouldn't get the more expensive Caldercraft one, I am not skilled enough to do a good enough job. But maybe by the time I finish this, there is still the Vasa or the Sovereign.... |
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11-11-2008, 02:21 AM
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Mike:
There is a photo submitted by "Igor" , from 2006, of an "admiralty model" giving a very good view of the "run of the planks" at the stern. It might help you to see how the planks (and battens) should run. Click Jim's photo and go to the far left of the row of photo's and click twice, it will appear at the left. To hold battens, and planks, in place I use "push pins" (the type used on cork boards).
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11-11-2008, 07:04 AM
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Could you please give me a bit more info on where to find that photo. I tried what you said, but couldn't find it. Thanks |
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11-11-2008, 07:53 AM
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Brian:
On the forum main page, go to the middle, "most recent photo", click it. On the new screen, look to the upper left blue section for "members galleries", click that. On the the next page you will see a box with member's names and a "down " triangle, click the triangle, it opens a list, go down to "Igorcap" and click his name. The photo's will come up.
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11-11-2008, 08:34 AM
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G'day everyone.
I have a question.for probably John as he has built the Corel version or anyone else who might have the answer. I am continually coming across the word plankshear in the Corel write up.I guess it is a translation of an Italian word,but what does it mean Regards BOB |
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11-12-2008, 01:53 AM
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Bob:
I don't have a dictionary available that lists it, but generally, it is a "plank" that is fixed on top of the timbers of the frames that runs all the way around the ship, and is the top of the hull planking. According to Longridge, from the waist (where is is practically level) it takes an upward turn towards the foc'sle. Going aft, it abuts to the quarterdeck bulwark. From that bulwark, there is an outside moulding that continues the line aft. It's an English word.
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11-12-2008, 07:37 AM
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Thanks James,you are a mine of information.I have been missing from my model for a while,but have kept in touch through reading the forum.I hope to start building again soon but hot weather gets in the way.It is only spring but the temp yesterday was 33C and today it was 35C.Keep up the the writing.
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11-13-2008, 04:26 AM
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Bob: You're welcome.
I haven't done much to my model in the past two months; I've become a "political junkie" and have been following our election. Now that that's over, I can get back to my model. Presently working on the masts and tops (to get away from the hull for a change). After the masts are constructed, It will be back to the hull for a month, or so; And then to the yards. I plan the build the masts and yards off the vessel. That will make it easier to move the pieces around and easier on the "old back". But it requires that all shrouds and stays be precut to an "approximate" length (I'll probably run out of the provided thread).
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